What exactly should a TOP TEN vote represent?

[Rebel-Fan-74]

I'm been very open that I really don't like TOP TEN polls, ironic that I do one for the board each week! I do it because they are a good way to spark conversation and get ideas from others.

Which leads me to this: One of the main reasons I don't like TOP TEN POLLS is that many voters feel very differently about what they represent. To some, they are the TOP TEN TEAMS IN THE STATE RIGHT NOW! Some think they represent who has the best record right now. Some think they are nothing more than a projection of where they end up. Some combine ideas listed above with totally different ideas.

I had one who said if the team I had listed as #4 was playing the team that I had #5, I would be betting on the team ranked #4.

Another said, that doesn't mean that just because I listed a team at #3 that I think they would beat teams ranked lower than them.

What are your thoughts on what a vote should mean?

And go vote in this week's poll......

[Penguin]

In MY opinion, teams should be rated as follows:

1st-All undefeated teams should be ranked ahead of teams that have lost. The reasoning, until a team loses a game, no matter to whom, there is no real guage as to how good or bad they really are. A team can only play the teams that are on their schedule, and have no control over the quality of those other teams.

After all of those teams are ranked, then you would start with the single loss teams and look at the wins and who they lost to. This may also bring into question some multiple loss teams as well. By then, you should be able to arrive at a list with 10 or more teams, then it is just objective reasoning to rank them behind those who have not lost.

This is just MY opinion, and how I tend to judge teams when looking those who do not play one another. I also tend to shy away from common opponents, as that does not really provide a fair assessment when both teams win. Scores are not relevant to me, a win is a win, is a win. Coaches approach games differently, injuries are not accounted for, weather conditions may vary, home field may vary, and individual match ups change from team to team. The best way to judge any 2 teams, is when they play head to head. When they don't, it is all subjective.......that is to say, different people will see things differently, and unless those teams play each other, there will never be a perfect resolution. I'll give you a perfect example in College right now. Alabama vs. Oregon. I say that Oregon would crush the Tide, but others will differ, and unless they wind up playing, how will we ever know for sure?

[GoBigGreen]

SO you would have a 5-0 Beaufort team ranked in front of a 1 loss Byrnes team in your ranking even though Byrnes lost to the #1 ranked team in the state? Most knew Goose Creek was going to run over Beaufort last week while not many would expect a 41 point blowout if Goose Creek were to play Byrnes.

[bruindad79]

There must be some good stuff in the water in Beaufort... A no name team who's schedule is arguably the softest in the entire 4A in SC who's given up 145 pts should be ranked ahead of a school who has more state titles than you have winning seasons...

Am I missing something here??

And BTW, my Crimson Tide WILL ABSOLUTELY CRUSH those Ducks!!

[EHSMeanGreen]

I'm just glad that it doesn't play a role in determining the champions.

Top Ten is what you want it to be. We each have our own thoughts and biases.

After Matt Colburn got hurt, I wasn't sure how to rank Dutch Fork?
They are not the same team without him.
(They also need to improve their Defense.)

So do you immediately drop a team because you feel like they won't be as good without a certain player?
Or are they automatically slotted where you had them placed until they lose?

[Wavefan70s]

I'm just glad that it doesn't play a role in determining the champions.

Top Ten is what you want it to be. We each have our own thoughts and biases.

After Matt Colburn got hurt, I wasn't sure how to rank Dutch Fork?
They are not the same team without him.
(They also need to improve their Defense.)

So do you immediately drop a team because you feel like they won't be as good without a certain player?
Or are they automatically slotted where you had them placed until they lose?

Your exactly right.df is not the same team with out Colbern.our d is not the same with out smalls our o not the same with out Anderson.with both of those i would argue we coulda been the best team in the lowcountry.with out we ain't.we lost our #7 fir week or so we are better with him.is gaffney the same with out thier qb no.with our guys we are top ten with out we ain't .the same as any other team would not be either.

[Wavefan70s]

SO you would have a 5-0 Beaufort team ranked in front of a 1 loss Byrnes team in your ranking even though Byrnes lost to the #1 ranked team in the state? Most knew Goose Creek was going to run over Beaufort last week while not many would expect a 41 point blowout if Goose Creek were to play Byrnes.

You are right as well that 5-0 Beaufort team was undefeated but no way in hell was top ten maybe not top 15.you cannot go on record alone.quality of opponent performance against such opponents loss of players ect all have to be a factor.realisticly your top ten should have a realistic chance at a state title.

[Penguin]

SO you would have a 5-0 Beaufort team ranked in front of a 1 loss Byrnes team in your ranking even though Byrnes lost to the #1 ranked team in the state? Most knew Goose Creek was going to run over Beaufort last week while not many would expect a 41 point blowout if Goose Creek were to play Byrnes.

Beaufort is 6-1, not 5-0. And IF you must know, I DID NOT have Beaufort ranked in my top 10 this week. That said, I DO have all of the undefeated teams in the state ranked ahead of Burnz...........because UNTIL they lose a game, there is no way of telling how good they are. They have been good enough to beat every team on their schedule, while Burnz has not. And further, I did preface my entire rationale with the clause, "IN MY OPINION". How about this, instead of attacking me for my opinions, why not go out on a limb and post yours. Or, are you too scared that others will do to you what you chose to do to me?

I did not submit any top 10 ballots until now, when I had a real "feel" for how teams lined up. My top 10 is certainly not a popularity contest, nor designed to appease other, it is MY honest OPINION of who and how, the top 10 teams in this state line up.

[Penguin]

There must be some good stuff in the water in Beaufort... A no name team who's schedule is arguably the softest in the entire 4A in SC who's given up 145 pts should be ranked ahead of a school who has more state titles than you have winning seasons...

Am I missing something here??

And BTW, my Crimson Tide WILL ABSOLUTELY CRUSH those Ducks!!

You missed the boat. I never said any on the things that you posted. Read MY post, not someone else's if you are going to respond to mine. Beaufort is not undefeated, and hasn't been for 2 weeks. I did not submit a top 10 list until this week because I felt that up until now, there was no real clear cut basis to try and pick a true top 10. But again, that is MY OPINION, and I really do not appreciate your attitude towards an attempt to offer a rational response to a real football question. Your childish response reflects upon you, certainly not me.

[bruindad79]

Penguin was added to the "ignore list", tired of his rants and his trash talk on how "Sadfort is coming"