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Re: Bad behavior at games

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greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:24 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:26 pm
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:11 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:52 am
These small towns have to adapt or die. It's that blunt, the jobs aren't coming back, people aren't moving in to save them. Whitmire lost their only grocery store recently, will that be the death of the community? Now people have to either drive to Newberry, Clinton, or Union to get groceries. Real estate prices will continue to dip as the older people pass away and nobody is rushing to move in.

It's the same all over the state. Does it suck, yes. But nobody is coming to save any of those people. They have to save themselves.
In order for them to save themselves there has to be a method, a way for them to do that. I don't know of any way for them to do it. Most of these mill villages are old and the houses are not in good repair, they have nothing to build from.
The way they do it is pack up and move. Either that or pray that some person will want to come in and buy houses to fix up the town. But no smart investor is doing that in a town with no jobs, no stores, no anything. Most of these small towns don't have the infrastructure in place even if a investor was interested. Old pipes, bad roads, no high speed internet, not a lot for investors to work with.

You can't just sit in the town talking about the good ole days. Towns have died since the beginning of time, it's nothing new.
Packing up and moving is abandoning the town, not saving it. Towns have died here and there in the past but we have never seen anything like this.
Let's say I was a real estate investor/developer, what reason do I have have to go into 1 of these rural, small, former mill towns and invest my money?

There is a 0% chance of getting any ROI. I know there is a 0% chance I even look at properties in these towns when I do my daily searches. I don't care how cheap they are, they aren't worth it.

At some point, abandoning the town is the only option. Well, I guess you could stay there and continue to do absolutely nothing to better your situation. The population of these town will continue to get older and older, as people pass away nobody will take their place, their properties will slowly fall into disrepair bringing the property values around them even further down.

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Re: Bad behavior at games

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greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:27 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:00 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:52 am
Please, i don't want to get into some pissing contest with you guys over something that is widely known, the fact that impoverished neighborhoods breed violence, i mean, who doesn't understand that as well as understand why? Like i said, it is always easier to point fingers at the oppressed and blame them and that is what we do as a group. Before NAFTA Greenwood was a great place to live with low crime rates and Greenwood Mills plants everywhere. Not anymore. What we saw at the game was a true representation of what the town is becoming. And what changed? The poverty level, that's what changed. And it will only get worse until something is done to reverse it.
Of course, but the manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. Plus, people today don't want to work that kind of job. We have some big manufacturing places over here, Samsung has been here a few years now. All I hear from people that have worked there is "they make you work to hard". IT'S A JOB! If I owned a majority company, where would I want to go? Small town America where the work force doesn't want to work hard for the money, or overseas where the people are glad to work for money?

Work ethic just doesn't exist for a lot of people anymore.
In order to stabilize our nation's economy the manufacturing jobs must come back. Our economy is a 3 legged stool. We have manufacturing, construction and the government. We will never have a robust economy on 2 legs.
Stabilize for who? It goes back to what I said about it being 2022 not 1902, if you are depending on a 9-5 to live, you are always going to be going backwards. We are in a recession right now, I haven't slowed down at all. Matter of fact, I've ramped up what I do. The best time to make money is when there's panic in the streets.

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Re: Bad behavior at games

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bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:54 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:24 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:26 pm
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:11 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:52 am
These small towns have to adapt or die. It's that blunt, the jobs aren't coming back, people aren't moving in to save them. Whitmire lost their only grocery store recently, will that be the death of the community? Now people have to either drive to Newberry, Clinton, or Union to get groceries. Real estate prices will continue to dip as the older people pass away and nobody is rushing to move in.

It's the same all over the state. Does it suck, yes. But nobody is coming to save any of those people. They have to save themselves.
In order for them to save themselves there has to be a method, a way for them to do that. I don't know of any way for them to do it. Most of these mill villages are old and the houses are not in good repair, they have nothing to build from.
The way they do it is pack up and move. Either that or pray that some person will want to come in and buy houses to fix up the town. But no smart investor is doing that in a town with no jobs, no stores, no anything. Most of these small towns don't have the infrastructure in place even if a investor was interested. Old pipes, bad roads, no high speed internet, not a lot for investors to work with.

You can't just sit in the town talking about the good ole days. Towns have died since the beginning of time, it's nothing new.
Packing up and moving is abandoning the town, not saving it. Towns have died here and there in the past but we have never seen anything like this.
Let's say I was a real estate investor/developer, what reason do I have have to go into 1 of these rural, small, former mill towns and invest my money?

There is a 0% chance of getting any ROI. I know there is a 0% chance I even look at properties in these towns when I do my daily searches. I don't care how cheap they are, they aren't worth it.

At some point, abandoning the town is the only option. Well, I guess you could stay there and continue to do absolutely nothing to better your situation. The population of these town will continue to get older and older, as people pass away nobody will take their place, their properties will slowly fall into disrepair bringing the property values around them even further down.
Of course. You just described some of the devastation that NAFTA has caused but you must also add the millions of jobs, with benefits, lost. It is simply called creating poverty, and crime comes with it. Poverty always breeds crime, anywhere in the world. Study Molenbeek Belgium if you really want to see the effect of poverty on crime.
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Re: Bad behavior at games

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bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:56 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:27 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:00 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:52 am
Please, i don't want to get into some pissing contest with you guys over something that is widely known, the fact that impoverished neighborhoods breed violence, i mean, who doesn't understand that as well as understand why? Like i said, it is always easier to point fingers at the oppressed and blame them and that is what we do as a group. Before NAFTA Greenwood was a great place to live with low crime rates and Greenwood Mills plants everywhere. Not anymore. What we saw at the game was a true representation of what the town is becoming. And what changed? The poverty level, that's what changed. And it will only get worse until something is done to reverse it.
Of course, but the manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. Plus, people today don't want to work that kind of job. We have some big manufacturing places over here, Samsung has been here a few years now. All I hear from people that have worked there is "they make you work to hard". IT'S A JOB! If I owned a majority company, where would I want to go? Small town America where the work force doesn't want to work hard for the money, or overseas where the people are glad to work for money?

Work ethic just doesn't exist for a lot of people anymore.
In order to stabilize our nation's economy the manufacturing jobs must come back. Our economy is a 3 legged stool. We have manufacturing, construction and the government. We will never have a robust economy on 2 legs.
Stabilize for who? It goes back to what I said about it being 2022 not 1902, if you are depending on a 9-5 to live, you are always going to be going backwards. We are in a recession right now, I haven't slowed down at all. Matter of fact, I've ramped up what I do. The best time to make money is when there's panic in the streets.
Stabilize it for our overall society, not just a few.

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Re: Bad behavior at games

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greenjewel wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:15 am
bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:54 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:24 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:26 pm
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:11 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:52 am
These small towns have to adapt or die. It's that blunt, the jobs aren't coming back, people aren't moving in to save them. Whitmire lost their only grocery store recently, will that be the death of the community? Now people have to either drive to Newberry, Clinton, or Union to get groceries. Real estate prices will continue to dip as the older people pass away and nobody is rushing to move in.

It's the same all over the state. Does it suck, yes. But nobody is coming to save any of those people. They have to save themselves.
In order for them to save themselves there has to be a method, a way for them to do that. I don't know of any way for them to do it. Most of these mill villages are old and the houses are not in good repair, they have nothing to build from.
The way they do it is pack up and move. Either that or pray that some person will want to come in and buy houses to fix up the town. But no smart investor is doing that in a town with no jobs, no stores, no anything. Most of these small towns don't have the infrastructure in place even if a investor was interested. Old pipes, bad roads, no high speed internet, not a lot for investors to work with.

You can't just sit in the town talking about the good ole days. Towns have died since the beginning of time, it's nothing new.
Packing up and moving is abandoning the town, not saving it. Towns have died here and there in the past but we have never seen anything like this.
Let's say I was a real estate investor/developer, what reason do I have have to go into 1 of these rural, small, former mill towns and invest my money?

There is a 0% chance of getting any ROI. I know there is a 0% chance I even look at properties in these towns when I do my daily searches. I don't care how cheap they are, they aren't worth it.

At some point, abandoning the town is the only option. Well, I guess you could stay there and continue to do absolutely nothing to better your situation. The population of these town will continue to get older and older, as people pass away nobody will take their place, their properties will slowly fall into disrepair bringing the property values around them even further down.
Of course. You just described some of the devastation that NAFTA has caused but you must also add the millions of jobs lost. It is simply called creating poverty, and crime comes with it. Poverty always breeds crime, anywhere in the world. Study Molenbeek Belgium if you really want to see the effect of poverty on crime.
So these people are just going to sit there, waiting on the government to save them by reversing NAFTA? Got it, they don't want to help themselves. Then they will use that as an excuse as to why they commit crimes and terrorize the people that do work to better themselves. And you wonder why people that make something of themselves move out the first chance they get.

Laziness is not my fault, not wanting to better yourself is not my fault, their poverty is not my fault. It's all their choice. You can blame NAFTA, you can blame the 1%, you can blame whoever you want. It's personal choice to stay in that situation. It's personal choice to not better yourself.

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Re: Bad behavior at games

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greenjewel wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:18 am
bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:56 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:27 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:00 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:52 am
Please, i don't want to get into some pissing contest with you guys over something that is widely known, the fact that impoverished neighborhoods breed violence, i mean, who doesn't understand that as well as understand why? Like i said, it is always easier to point fingers at the oppressed and blame them and that is what we do as a group. Before NAFTA Greenwood was a great place to live with low crime rates and Greenwood Mills plants everywhere. Not anymore. What we saw at the game was a true representation of what the town is becoming. And what changed? The poverty level, that's what changed. And it will only get worse until something is done to reverse it.
Of course, but the manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. Plus, people today don't want to work that kind of job. We have some big manufacturing places over here, Samsung has been here a few years now. All I hear from people that have worked there is "they make you work to hard". IT'S A JOB! If I owned a majority company, where would I want to go? Small town America where the work force doesn't want to work hard for the money, or overseas where the people are glad to work for money?

Work ethic just doesn't exist for a lot of people anymore.
In order to stabilize our nation's economy the manufacturing jobs must come back. Our economy is a 3 legged stool. We have manufacturing, construction and the government. We will never have a robust economy on 2 legs.
Stabilize for who? It goes back to what I said about it being 2022 not 1902, if you are depending on a 9-5 to live, you are always going to be going backwards. We are in a recession right now, I haven't slowed down at all. Matter of fact, I've ramped up what I do. The best time to make money is when there's panic in the streets.
Stabilize it for our overall society, not just a few.
I'll be honest with you, I don't give 2 craps about society overall. I don't, I'm honest about it. I'll worry about getting mine, taking care of me. It still goes back to, its 2022 DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE. Punching a time clock as your only source of income will keep you a slave to that company forever.

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Re: Bad behavior at games

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bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:24 am
greenjewel wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:15 am
bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:54 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:24 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:26 pm
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:11 pm

In order for them to save themselves there has to be a method, a way for them to do that. I don't know of any way for them to do it. Most of these mill villages are old and the houses are not in good repair, they have nothing to build from.
The way they do it is pack up and move. Either that or pray that some person will want to come in and buy houses to fix up the town. But no smart investor is doing that in a town with no jobs, no stores, no anything. Most of these small towns don't have the infrastructure in place even if a investor was interested. Old pipes, bad roads, no high speed internet, not a lot for investors to work with.

You can't just sit in the town talking about the good ole days. Towns have died since the beginning of time, it's nothing new.
Packing up and moving is abandoning the town, not saving it. Towns have died here and there in the past but we have never seen anything like this.
Let's say I was a real estate investor/developer, what reason do I have have to go into 1 of these rural, small, former mill towns and invest my money?

There is a 0% chance of getting any ROI. I know there is a 0% chance I even look at properties in these towns when I do my daily searches. I don't care how cheap they are, they aren't worth it.

At some point, abandoning the town is the only option. Well, I guess you could stay there and continue to do absolutely nothing to better your situation. The population of these town will continue to get older and older, as people pass away nobody will take their place, their properties will slowly fall into disrepair bringing the property values around them even further down.
Of course. You just described some of the devastation that NAFTA has caused but you must also add the millions of jobs lost. It is simply called creating poverty, and crime comes with it. Poverty always breeds crime, anywhere in the world. Study Molenbeek Belgium if you really want to see the effect of poverty on crime.
So these people are just going to sit there, waiting on the government to save them by reversing NAFTA? Got it, they don't want to help themselves. Then they will use that as an excuse as to why they commit crimes and terrorize the people that do work to better themselves. And you wonder why people that make something of themselves move out the first chance they get.

Laziness is not my fault, not wanting to better yourself is not my fault, their poverty is not my fault. It's all their choice. You can blame NAFTA, you can blame the 1%, you can blame whoever you want. It's personal choice to stay in that situation. It's personal choice to not better yourself.
You are ignoring reality and creating your own alter-reality. It costs to get out. People in these situations are broke. The entire community is broke. NAFTA.

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Re: Bad behavior at games

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greenjewel wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:14 am
bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:24 am
greenjewel wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:15 am
bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:54 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:24 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:26 pm


The way they do it is pack up and move. Either that or pray that some person will want to come in and buy houses to fix up the town. But no smart investor is doing that in a town with no jobs, no stores, no anything. Most of these small towns don't have the infrastructure in place even if a investor was interested. Old pipes, bad roads, no high speed internet, not a lot for investors to work with.

You can't just sit in the town talking about the good ole days. Towns have died since the beginning of time, it's nothing new.
Packing up and moving is abandoning the town, not saving it. Towns have died here and there in the past but we have never seen anything like this.
Let's say I was a real estate investor/developer, what reason do I have have to go into 1 of these rural, small, former mill towns and invest my money?

There is a 0% chance of getting any ROI. I know there is a 0% chance I even look at properties in these towns when I do my daily searches. I don't care how cheap they are, they aren't worth it.

At some point, abandoning the town is the only option. Well, I guess you could stay there and continue to do absolutely nothing to better your situation. The population of these town will continue to get older and older, as people pass away nobody will take their place, their properties will slowly fall into disrepair bringing the property values around them even further down.
Of course. You just described some of the devastation that NAFTA has caused but you must also add the millions of jobs lost. It is simply called creating poverty, and crime comes with it. Poverty always breeds crime, anywhere in the world. Study Molenbeek Belgium if you really want to see the effect of poverty on crime.
So these people are just going to sit there, waiting on the government to save them by reversing NAFTA? Got it, they don't want to help themselves. Then they will use that as an excuse as to why they commit crimes and terrorize the people that do work to better themselves. And you wonder why people that make something of themselves move out the first chance they get.

Laziness is not my fault, not wanting to better yourself is not my fault, their poverty is not my fault. It's all their choice. You can blame NAFTA, you can blame the 1%, you can blame whoever you want. It's personal choice to stay in that situation. It's personal choice to not better yourself.
You are ignoring reality and creating your own alter-reality. It costs to get out. People in these situations are broke. The entire community is broke. NAFTA.
Once again, its 2022, there are ways to make money to get out. Sure it's easier to sit there and do nothing, but if they wanted out they would find a way. To many ways to make money if you try.

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Re: Bad behavior at games

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greenjewel wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:14 am
bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:24 am
greenjewel wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:15 am
bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:54 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:24 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:26 pm


The way they do it is pack up and move. Either that or pray that some person will want to come in and buy houses to fix up the town. But no smart investor is doing that in a town with no jobs, no stores, no anything. Most of these small towns don't have the infrastructure in place even if a investor was interested. Old pipes, bad roads, no high speed internet, not a lot for investors to work with.

You can't just sit in the town talking about the good ole days. Towns have died since the beginning of time, it's nothing new.
Packing up and moving is abandoning the town, not saving it. Towns have died here and there in the past but we have never seen anything like this.
Let's say I was a real estate investor/developer, what reason do I have have to go into 1 of these rural, small, former mill towns and invest my money?

There is a 0% chance of getting any ROI. I know there is a 0% chance I even look at properties in these towns when I do my daily searches. I don't care how cheap they are, they aren't worth it.

At some point, abandoning the town is the only option. Well, I guess you could stay there and continue to do absolutely nothing to better your situation. The population of these town will continue to get older and older, as people pass away nobody will take their place, their properties will slowly fall into disrepair bringing the property values around them even further down.
Of course. You just described some of the devastation that NAFTA has caused but you must also add the millions of jobs lost. It is simply called creating poverty, and crime comes with it. Poverty always breeds crime, anywhere in the world. Study Molenbeek Belgium if you really want to see the effect of poverty on crime.
So these people are just going to sit there, waiting on the government to save them by reversing NAFTA? Got it, they don't want to help themselves. Then they will use that as an excuse as to why they commit crimes and terrorize the people that do work to better themselves. And you wonder why people that make something of themselves move out the first chance they get.

Laziness is not my fault, not wanting to better yourself is not my fault, their poverty is not my fault. It's all their choice. You can blame NAFTA, you can blame the 1%, you can blame whoever you want. It's personal choice to stay in that situation. It's personal choice to not better yourself.
You are ignoring reality and creating your own alter-reality. It costs to get out. People in these situations are broke. The entire community is broke. NAFTA.
I just happen to work in a sector of international trade pretty much my entire family has since 1969.
We are busting at the seems.
We have hired 159 people . About 33%or a bit more
Ain't worth a shit. Won't show up call out sick ect.
Lazy af when they do. We pay top dollar .
24 a hr fir trainees 40 a hr with in 5 years.
Great benefits. Industry leading .
A lot of people dint want to work .they want the money but don't want to work for it.
And it's not labor intensive. Tedious .
Same in my wife's area of expertise.
We gotta change our thought process of how our youngish think .

Personal responsibility seems to be lacking .

Hell we are building and have built infrastructure
To lure manufacturers such as .
BMW Boeing Mercedes Cummings Shimano
Volvo .distribution centers harbor frieght I. Dillon
Walmart Ridgeville Amazon
Raymond nurdles plastic beads in North Charleston.

Our 3ird inlandcrailway port to serve thr south east.
Money and jobs are here and otw.
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Re: Bad behavior at games

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bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:27 am
greenjewel wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:18 am
bigdog2003 wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:56 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:27 pm
bigdog2003 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:00 am
greenjewel wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:52 am
Please, i don't want to get into some pissing contest with you guys over something that is widely known, the fact that impoverished neighborhoods breed violence, i mean, who doesn't understand that as well as understand why? Like i said, it is always easier to point fingers at the oppressed and blame them and that is what we do as a group. Before NAFTA Greenwood was a great place to live with low crime rates and Greenwood Mills plants everywhere. Not anymore. What we saw at the game was a true representation of what the town is becoming. And what changed? The poverty level, that's what changed. And it will only get worse until something is done to reverse it.
Of course, but the manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. Plus, people today don't want to work that kind of job. We have some big manufacturing places over here, Samsung has been here a few years now. All I hear from people that have worked there is "they make you work to hard". IT'S A JOB! If I owned a majority company, where would I want to go? Small town America where the work force doesn't want to work hard for the money, or overseas where the people are glad to work for money?

Work ethic just doesn't exist for a lot of people anymore.
In order to stabilize our nation's economy the manufacturing jobs must come back. Our economy is a 3 legged stool. We have manufacturing, construction and the government. We will never have a robust economy on 2 legs.
Stabilize for who? It goes back to what I said about it being 2022 not 1902, if you are depending on a 9-5 to live, you are always going to be going backwards. We are in a recession right now, I haven't slowed down at all. Matter of fact, I've ramped up what I do. The best time to make money is when there's panic in the streets.
Stabilize it for our overall society, not just a few.
I'll be honest with you, I don't give 2 craps about society overall. I don't, I'm honest about it. I'll worry about getting mine, taking care of me. It still goes back to, its 2022 DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE. Punching a time clock as your only source of income will keep you a slave to that company forever.
Do you have children and grandchildren? You don't care about the society they will live in? That is not a good attitude for people living in a democracy, that type of greed is a death certificate for a democracy if the majority goes that way.

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